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88 - The Time Kyle Acquired the Fire: Shiny Happy People Season 2 Recap

We’re diving into Shiny Happy People Season 2 — and this time, Kyle’s the one with the inside scoop. While Amanda expected to lead the conversation, it turned out Kyle’s past experience at an Acquire the Fire event made this season

September 15, 2025 • Season 1 • Episode 88 • 57:52

87 - Chantelle’s Story: From Shame and Control to Healing and Freedom

When Chantelle was sent to the cult Headquarters as an “encouragement case,” she encountered Bill Gothard’s inappropriate and abusive behavior toward teenage girls firsthand. She shares what it was like to grow up in IBLP and ATI, survive both ...

September 01, 2025 • Season 1 • Episode 87 • 1:42:57

86 - Mother Wounds with Jessica Jocelyn (Part 2)

In the second half of our conversation with poet Jessica Jocelyn, we pick up where the shocking story of her mom left off. Jessica shares how poetry became a way to make sense of loss, love, and the wounds only a mother can leave behind. Togeth...

August 18, 2025 • Season 1 • Episode 86 • 1:20:20

85 - Mother Wounds with Jessica Jocelyn (Part 1)

In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, we’re honored to welcome poet Jessica Jocelyn—whose writing has been a healing touchstone for Amanda and may already be familiar to listeners of the podcast.Jessica is a best-selling poet whose wo...

August 04, 2025 • Season 1 • Episode 85 • 1:24:53

84 - Sometimes, You Get What You Want

Amanda has gotten a lot of questions about whether she would ever let anyone from her biological family back into her life.For a long time, the answer was no. But then something changed.It’s been a year and a half,...

July 21, 2025 • Season 1 • Episode 83 • 29:23

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Thank you so much for the hard work you do with this podcast. I wasn't part of the IBLP cult, but I am queer and raised in a Southern Baptist church. Some of the teachings of Bill Gothard filtered into our church and in Awanas. I'm currently working out my religious trauma. Your podcast helps me see the light at the end of the tunnel of this process. Most days, I feel so broken and like I've wasted so much of my life with these hurtful ideals. But, hearing how much you've been able to heal, I feel like I have a chance to get better. I hope you have an amazing day!

Orlando, Florida

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