The Cult I Left Behind
Newly-ish married couple, Amanda and Kyle, discuss Amanda’s upbringing in the IBLP cult of Duggar infamy – a story Kyle learns about along with listeners. Through sometimes humorous, sometimes heartbreaking stories, Amanda and Kyle explore the cult’s ideology, the strange rules that surrounded Amanda’s childhood, and the abuse she endured before leaving the cult. Through it all, they talk about what it takes to break free from a cult and what gets left behind.
The Cult I Left Behind
96 - Exposure Isn't Change
We’re often told that exposure leads to change. That once harm is named, brought into the light, or made public, something will finally shift.
But that hasn’t been Amanda's experience.
In this episode, Amanda and Kyle talk through why exposure alone rarely produces real change and why, in many systems, it actually becomes a substitute for it. They look at how harm can be acknowledged over and over without anything structural changing, how public reaction creates the feeling of accountability without enforcing it, and why the same dynamics keep repeating even when everyone inside the system knows what’s happening.
This conversation is about naming a pattern: the difference between awareness and transformation, and what gets lost when we confuse the two.
If you’ve ever felt unsettled watching harm be exposed again and again with no meaningful consequences, or felt pressure to disclose while power remains untouched, this episode is meant to give you language for that dissonance, and a clearer way of understanding what you’re seeing.
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